Thought to Ponder

Wesley on the Scriptures

"The general rule of interpreting Scripture is this: the literal sense of every text is to be taken, if it be not contrary to some other texts. But in that case, the obscure text is to be interpreted by those which speak more plainly."

—(Letter to Samuel Furly, 10 May, 1755)

Scripture to Ponder

"Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away."   2 Timothy 3:5

NIC VOICE is a growing network of concerned laity whose purpose is to provide balanced information and dialog within the Northern Illinois Conference (NIC).

This is in harmony with the recommendations by the Supervisory Response Team's dismissal of charges againts Bishop Joseph C. Sprague.  The charges were: 

1) dissemination of doctrines contrary to the established standards of doctrine of The United Methodist Church ( 2702.1f), and
2) disobedience to the Order and Discipline of The United Methodist Church ( 2702.1e).

They urged that the laity become involved in the process of "serious theological reflection on issues of Biblical Authority, Christology and the Mission of the Church".

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HE IS RISEN!
He is not here; he has risen, just as he said.  Come see the place where he lay. (Matthew 28:6)


What is a Watershed?NIC VOICE offers the laity within NIC churches an opportunity to become INFORMED. Upon invitation from a NIC church or group, NIC VOICE will provide a speaker to conduct a  presentation entitled "WATERSHED MOMENT:  Discussion of Theological and Doctrinal Issues in the UMC Raised by the Bishop Sprague Complaint & Dismissal".
What is a Watershed?

NIC VOICE provides an open meeting package (see "How to Schedule an NIC VOICE Meeting) to assist you in scheduling the meeting.)


I would highly recommend that anyone concerned about the overall future direction of the United Methodist Church should attend the "NIC VOICE" presentation or spend a few hours reading details on the internet.

The presentation is a much more organized way to get the details and it allows for interaction with questions and discussion.

Their presentation gives a disturbing message, but it is a message we should know.

Paul Marshall
Serena, IL UMC

From NIC VOICE Links & Resources:  Bishop Sprague Complaint and Dismissal (Links directly related to Bishop Sprague's writings, the complaint, dismissal and responses)

Have you visited the NIC VOICE Resources & Links Section? Great resources are added frequently!  Check it out!

Have you shared the NIC VOICE Newsletter with other UMC members?

What The Bible Says About A Godly Attitude Toward Heresy

HOW SHALL WE DEAL WITH UNITED METHODIST HERETICS?  by Rev. Wally Cason, St. Mark and Oak Hill UMC, Tupelo, Mississippi

Doctrinal Issues Comparison Chart

"Risking Methodism", by D. Stephen Long, Associate Professor of Systematic Theology, Garrett-Evangelical Theological Seminary

NIC VOICE Moody Broadcast Network – WMBI 90.1 Interview:  FULL INTERVIEW NOW ON-LINE

NIC VOICE was interviewed  by Roy Patterson, Community Relations Director at WMBI Chicago, part of the Moody Broadcasting Network.  The interview originally aired in the Chicago area on WMBI 90.1 FM on Monday, July 21 at 6:12 AM as part of the Morning Show segment, God at Work: with Roy Patterson Click Here to listen to this segment.

 

WMBI graciously provided the full interview, which was edited in length to fit the segment that aired on 7/21 (see above).  Click Here to listen to the full interview.


Deconstructing Liberal Tolerance by Dr. Francis Beckwith

Honest Answers to Tough Questions

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WATERSHED MOMENT

 It is important that we not allow the passing of what Bishop Ough’s Supervisory Team has characterized as a “Watershed Moment” without examining their dismissal of recent charges brought against Bishop Sprague.  More importantly, presentations and discussions such as this forum will allow United Methodists throughout the Northern Illinois Conference and beyond an opportunity to decide for themselves what they believe to be the Biblical Truth about the doctrines that are at the root of this controversy.  

The charges in the complaint against Bishop Sprague state that his positions are contrary to the Statement of Faith in the United Methodist Book of Discipline. This controversy became public when a transcript of Bishop Sprague’s speech at Iliff Seminary was released in the summer of 2002.  Subsequent to that, Chapter 4 of his book, “Affirmations of a Dissenter” was released by Bishop Sprague on the NIC web site.

In the fall of 2002, the UMReporter published a series of articles contrasting excerpts from Chapter 4 of Bishop Sprague’s book with the published response of Bishop Whitaker. 

In addition, various renewal groups officially within the UMC, as well as other groups not officially connected, have covered various aspects of this controversy on their web sites.  They have published information and opinions about the complaint that was made by a group of laity and clergy late in 2002, and the subsequent dismissal in February of 2003.  These groups provide a forum for this and other issues of concern within the UMC.  


MISSION

 NIC VOICE is a growing network of concerned laity whose purpose is to provide balanced information and dialog within the Northern Illinois Conference of the UMC about Doctrinal Issues raised by the Bishop Sprague Complaint & Dismissal.

This is in harmony with the recommendations by the Supervisory Response Team's dismissal of charges.  They urged that the laity become involved in the process of "serious theological reflection on issues of Biblical Authority, Christology and the Mission of the Church".

Questions or comments about NIC VOICE may be directed to:  nicvoice@nicvoice.org.


NIC VOICE offers the laity within NIC churches an opportunity to become more INFORMED:

Upon invitation from a NIC church or group, NIC VOICE will provide a speaker to conduct a  presentation entitled "Discussion of Theological and Doctrinal Issues in the UMC Raised by the Bishop Sprague Complaint & Dismissal", or

You may choose to conduct the presentation 'in-house', using the NIC VOICE Watershed Moment Presentation, at a single meeting or in a series of studies on these key doctrinal issues of:

·         Christology (Trinity, Virgin Birth, Deity of Jesus)

·         Resurrection of Jesus Christ

·         Salvation through Jesus Christ Alone

·         The Atonement of Jesus Christ


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NIC VOICE Special Edition 2 August 25, 2004 – Fresno Congregation Wins Ruling

Numerous sources, including Good News, themethodistchurch.com, www.ucmpage.org and www.umc.org are reporting information about the Fresno congregation that won a court ruling regarding its property.

We are forwarding to you the latest Good News Update (see following) which includes a link to the article (you will be required to register for it), as well as links to related articles: 

Fresno United Methodist congregation wins ruling for property (this links directly to the news article)

Ex-United Methodists Win Their Property Back (this links to an article referencing the news article)

California Appeals Court Reverses United Methodist Grip On Local Church Property – (this links to an article with the actual text of court decision)

UMNS:  Court rules Fresno church may keep its property



After a four-year battle, the 5th District Court of Appeal in Fresno, Calif., has ruled that St. Luke’s United Methodist Church is not the property of the denomination. The decision was issued Aug. 13. Read More 


From: Bob Rempfer [mailto:Bob@goodnewsmag.org]
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:28 PM
To: Bob Rempfer
Subject: Good News Prayer Update

 GOOD NEWS UPDATE

Dear Praying Friend: 

    Greetings to you from here at Good News. I hope this finds you having had a good summer season with time for personal refreshment--mentally, physically, and spiritually. 

    Recently I read something written by Dr. Dennis F. Kinlaw in his book, This Day With the Master, his wonderful new daily devotional book, which I predict will become a classic. Dr. Kinlaw writes:

       "As you pore over Scripture, you should keep seeking to understand those great biblical clues that will enable you to interpret life as a Christian. How much happier and how much more effective all of our lives would be if we were thoroughly biblical in our outlook and orientation. Scripture is where the key to the interpretation of reality really is. There are so many of us who do not understand life. There are so many of us who live in confusion and uncertainty. God wants his children to see, to discern, to perceive, and to know, and therefore to be able to lead and to help others. . . (The Bible) is the clue to reality given to us by the One who created reality.

     "I doubt that one can understand the basic realities of life--whether the nature of God, the nature of persons, the nature of marriage, the nature of the state, or the nature of one's vocation--until one knows Scripture very well. The thing that now commends Scripture to me is the fact that it is the most realistic of all books, it is safe for me to plum its depths and then to base my life on it." 

     Those are profound words from a great Christian leader. (Dr. Kinlaw is a former professor at Asbury Theological Seminary, a former President of Asbury College, and is President and Founder of the Francis Asbury Society here in Wilmore.) 

     Now, let me invite you to become aware of and join a massive prayer movement that begins this fall. I invite you to find a way to plug in to "40 DAYS USA: 40 Days of Corporate Prayer and Fasting for National Repentance."  The target dates are September 24 - November 2, prior to our National Election. 

    A dear friend and great leader in prayer, Dr. Ray Bringham, of San Marcos, CA, is a major part of this effort. Ray heads up the "World Prayer Summit." See that web site for more information. Go to: www.WorldPrayerSummit.org   Also, you can go to: www.40daysUSA.org 

    The vision is to have 20 million Christians in the USA and 200 million Christians worldwide united in 40 days of Prayer and Fasting for National Repentance in the U.S.A. The late Dr. Richard Halverson, former Chaplain of the U.S. Senate, said once, "Nothing is clearer than that God alone is able to rescue our decaying society; nothing is clearer than that He waits for His people to reject materialism as a way of life; and that the crisis requires repentance from worldly waywardness and devotion to prayer." 

    And as you pray, join us in thanking God for Good News' board of directors meetings here in Wilmore last week. This was a very important meeting as we look to the future and try to discern God's direction for our renewal efforts. Please pray for our board members who come from across the country to be a part of our national board.  

    And please pray that our contribution income will be strong during August. We went into July with a significant deficit and had a good month of July. But we have considerable ground to gain. I believe the Lord will provide the resources we need. 

    God bless you, friend. Thanks for caring and for your prayers on our behalf. Please feel free to share this with others in your various spheres of influence. 

    Sincerely in Christ,

    Jim Heidinger