June 2003     Volume 1 Number 2


NIC VOICE is a growing network of concerned laity whose purpose is to provide balanced information and dialog within the Northern Illinois Conference (NIC). 

 NOTE: NIC VOICE is not an official publication of the Northern Illinois Conference or the United Methodist Church.  See our Disclaimer below.


REVISED NIC VOICE Watershed Moment presentation is AVAILABLE on-line!

You may view the presentation or download at http://www.nicvoice.org/presentation.htm

This presentation includes several updates, including comments made by Bishop Sprague at a recent speech at the Methodist Theological Seminary in Ohio and concerns expressed about evangelical renewal groups in a recently released book, “Methodism @ Risk A Wake Up Call”. 


 

He is not here; he has risen, just as he said.  Come see the place where he lay.  (Matthew 28:6)   )


United Methodist Reporter – N. Illinois United Methodists create Web site for public dialogue on theology”

A recent article in the United Methodist Reporter (http://www.reporterinteractive.org/index1.htm) on May 27, 2003 by Steve Smith notes that,

“A group of United Methodists in the Northern Illinois Annual Conference has started a Web site to engage laity throughout the denomination in public dialogue over theological issues regarding the life of Christ.

Brenda Klockenga of Crystal Lake, Ill., said she and 13 other lay members at churches in the Chicago-based conference created the NIC VOICE site, www.nicvoice.org, in February in response to doctrinal issues raised in the case of their bishop, C. Joseph Sprague.”

The UMR also interviewed Bishop Sprague:

Bishop Sprague, meanwhile, said he affirms the group's right to operate the Web site, which he called "sophisticated and well done," but disagrees with their methods and theology.

"They are strident in their style and self-righteous in their presentation," he said. "It is a very small group representing the theological right among laity in this conference. They have seized upon the language of the supervisory response team that suggests theological dialogue, which, of course, is appropriate and something I've urged for years, but they suggest that they are one of the designated parties within this conference and beyond to conduct that dialogue.”


Recent NIC VOICE Presentation informs Laity

 At a recent NIC VOICE presentation, members from several churches had an opportunity to discuss their concerns.  One participant summarized her experience:

I must tell you I came to the meeting with one attitude and left with an entirely different viewpoint.  I was sure the answer was to break ties with the UMC. After seeing your presentation I now realize that the time has come to take a stand, to draw a line in the sand, to stand up and be counted -- counted among those who remain faithful to the full gospel of Jesus Christ. I realize my decision may not be a popular one; however I also realize I am not alone. 


Upcoming NIC VOICE Presentations

NIC VOICE will be presenting “Watershed Moment” at the Downer’s Grove public library on Tuesday, August 12, at 6:30 PM.  This is an opportunity for you to invite someone who would be interested.  For additional information, contact Joe Royston at joelroydton@hotmail.com or at (630) 663-1087.

NIC VOICE has been invited to speak at the Forum for Evangelical Theology at Garrett Seminary in the coming fall semester. The purpose of the Forum for Evangelical Theology (FET) is to engage in conversation about the Christian faith from an evangelical perspective. You discover more about the Forum at www.wesleyanforum.org/fet/


NIC VOICE Web Site Updates:  www.nicvoice.org

The web site continues to be updated, including new information in the presentation, more Comments, and some thought provoking insights in what is a Watershed (see home page).


  NIC VOICE Press Release On-Line!

http://www.nicvoice.org/about.htm


NIC VOICE COMMENTS

I just read the May 30 issue of the U.M. Reporter and saw the reference to your website. I have spent the last hour or so reviewing it and downloading and reviewing the power point presentation. Let me first say that I am grateful to God for His providing the means for your website to be established. May God's blessing continue to remain on you and your efforts. I have been a member of the UMC for about 14 years. I was raised in a Lutheran tradition. I came to believe that God had to exist when I was 9 because of the illogical nature of His nonexistence. I made a very personal commitment to Jesus in 1989, which I do define as my time of rebirth.

Over the years I have watched with great concern how very vocal individuals, apparently not liking what the Scriptures say regarding certain issues, want to change the face of the UMC. It is not like anyone has twisted their arms to remain members of the church, but it does seem that many along the west coast would rather change the existing church structure to suit their own desires rather than leave and start their own church - which is their prerogative. I also held out the UMC Bishops understood and supported the nature and truth of the Gospel message. Obviously Bishop Sprague's comments were of great concern, to the extent that I am looking towards other church traditions for my future place of worship.

I would also say that I do not speak as an illiterate, uneducated individual who thinks that much of Scripture is filled with "myths" that are outmoded. I am educated in physics (BS) and geology (MS, PhD) and am considerably well read in astronomy as well. I have a reasonably large library of books involving the Scriptures as well and am an active reader of this literature as well as the Bible. If I, a layman who has studied hard science and employed mathematics to describe things within the universe, a scientist who seeks hard facts about the truth regarding how the world is put together and operates, if I can accept the literal resurrection of Jesus and find no difficulty, how is it that a Bishop of the UMC cannot accept that God can do such a thing?

How is it that I have seen more of the mystical and 'supernatural' within my study of nature that leads me to this belief and that a Bishop who should have grasp the mystical and 'supernatural' of the Scriptures cannot be led to such a belief? To quote from an email I received some time ago from an English Professor who also studies CS Lewis, "Jesus is not the founder of Christianity; he IS Christianity. Jesus did not show us a way to find/reach God; he IS the Way. Jesus, like Plato and Buddha, taught truths and furthered both religious life and philosophical light, but Jesus alone claimed to be Light and Truth and Life Itself." There is no doubt that God would have all people turn to Him.

But the cold, hard facts are that not all people will. The mystery of Christianity is that Christ died for not just the Jews but also for the gentiles. Christianity is not for one culture - it is open for everyone, for ALL people. If Jesus is who he said He is, and that in the end is the only question that matters, "then to say that Jesus is the only way to God is not elitist; it is merely common sense." To have this gift we must give up our rebellion and accept what God offers. Satin's sin was wanting to be God; so was ours. And we our still wanting to be God when we are unwilling to accept the means that has been provided freely to us - the acceptance of Jesus the Christ as our Lord and Savior through repentance, which is the good news.

Thank you for this opportunity to speak.

--Dr. Richard J. Erdlac, Jr., Midland, Texas


Thank you for being courageous and standing up for Jesus.  I am from Central UMC, Traverse City, Michigan and we have a new pastor and we are experiencing the same false teachings here.  We are attempting to organize a Good News Fellowship within the church to keep our congregation together and are meeting a great deal of resistance both from the pastor and other members.  It gives us strength to know that you also are standing on Christ the foundation of the Church. 

May God continue to bless us.
—Ron Bell, Traverse City, Michigan


I thank God for the boldness that God has given this group!

We must stand together and insist that ALL United Methodist bishops preach, teach, but more importantly, believe, the major tenets of our Christian faith that they have VOWED to uphold. The Apostle Paul in 1 Timothy 1:3 says: "As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer." And in 1 Timothy 4:16: "Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers." Let us be obedient to the Word of God and command these men not to teach false doctrines any longer.
—Russ Knight, Perry, Florida


I am a member of a very small church of about 50 people in the Northern Illinois Conference who love the Lord and the gospel of Jesus Christ. We have been appalled at the Bishop's comments and are seeking the Lord on His direction for the church. I would like to learn more about NIC VOICE.
—Karen Michelini, Arlington, IL


During a time when truth is constantly questioned it is refreshing to find a site dedicated to spreading truth. Our denomination (UMC) is being divided over truth, and this site is about uniting those who hold to truth.
—BG, Crystal Lake, IL


I saw a wonderful presentation last Sunday evening presented by NIC VOICE. NIC VOICE is a group of concerned members of United Methodist Churches in our Northern Illinois Conference. Their goal is to educate other church members who may not be aware of some significant doctrinal issues and share their concerns. The web site is at www.nicvoice.org. The first newsletter is there, as well an outline of the presentation.

Since reading and hearing Bishop Sprague's views, it was interesting to hear the official United Methodist statements to compare the two to arrive at an informed decision for myself.
—Joe Royston, Downer's Grove, Illinois


This is an important time in our denomination and every United Methodist should be aware of these facts. The NIC VOICE Presentation provides thorough, well-balanced information in an easy to understand format. Whether you agree or disagree, you will learn and be affected.

—John Crissman, Grayslake, Illinois


What can we do?

Learn More About Jesus' Resurrection and Gift of Salvation

Individual and Corporate Prayer

Send Expression of Concern to UMC Bishops

Send petitions for accountability to Annual Conference and General Conference

Continue to stay informed

Schedule a presentation of "Watershed Moment" using the downloaded PowerPoint presentation at your church or at a public facility to invite churches in your area

 

Network to inform laity and with other laity and laity/clergy led groups by sending the NIC VOICE newsletter or Press Release!

Hold a small group series or summer adult education study using the resources you will find at NIC VOICE and focus on the key doctrinal issues

 


Bishop Sprague Denies the Virgin Birth and Deity of Jesus  s   

"Thus, if the Virgin Birth did not occur in a physical historical sense, if Jesus were born of human parents, as I affirm he was, and if Jesus did not possess trans-human supernatural powers, as I do not believe he did, what sense can we make of the miraculous stories about him in the gospel accounts?"  Affirmations of a Dissenter: Chapter 4, "Fully Human Jesus" (underlined added for emphasis)

 "This powerful myth was not intended as historical fact, but was employed by Matthew and Luke in different ways to point poetically to the Truth about Jesus as experienced in the emerging Church." Affirmations of a Dissenter: Chapter 4, "Fully Human Jesus" (underlined added for emphasis)

 The Bible says:

"Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel".  Isaiah 7:14 (NIV)  

"For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority."  Colossians 2: 9-10 (NIV) 

The UMC Book of Discipline says:

"The Son, who is the Word of the Father… of one substance with the Father, took man's nature in the womb of the blessed Virgin; so that two whole and perfect natures, that is to say, the Godhead and Manhood, were joined together in one person…. was crucified, dead, and buried, to reconcile his Father to us, and to be a sacrifice, not only for original guilt, but also for actual sins of men."  Article VII (excerpts with underlining for emphasis)

 Reflections on Virgin Birth


  Watershed Moment

 It is important that we not allow the passing of what Bishop Ough’s Supervisory Team has characterized as a “Watershed Moment” without examining their dismissal of recent charges brought against Bishop Sprague.  More importantly, presentations and discussions such as this forum will allow United Methodists throughout the Northern Illinois Conference an opportunity to decide for themselves what they believe to be the Biblical Truth about the doctrines that are at the root of this controversy.  

The charges in the complaint against Bishop Sprague state that his positions are contrary to the Statement of Faith in the United Methodist Book of Discipline. This controversy became public when a transcript of Bishop Sprague’s speech at Iliff Seminary was released in the summer of 2002.  Subsequent to that, Chapter 4 of his book, “Affirmations of a Dissenter” was released by Bishop Sprague on the NIC web site.

In the fall of 2002, the UMReporter published a series of articles contrasting excerpts from Chapter 4 of Bishop Sprague’s book with the published response of Bishop Whitaker. 

In addition, various renewal groups officially within the UMC, as well as other groups not officially connected, have covered various aspects of this controversy on their web sites.  They have published information and opinions about the complaint that was made by a group of laity and clergy late in 2002, and the subsequent dismissal in February of 2003.  These groups provide a forum for this and other issues of concern within the UMC.  


MISSION

 NIC VOICE is a growing network of concerned laity whose purpose is to provide balanced information and dialog within the Northern Illinois Conference of the UMC about Doctrinal Issues raised by the Bishop Sprague Complaint & Dismissal.

 

 This is in harmony with the recommendations by the Supervisory Response Team's dismissal of charges.  They urged that the laity become involved in the process of "serious theological reflection on issues of Biblical Authority, Christology and the Mission of the Church".


Questions or comments about NIC VOICE may be directed to:  nicvoice@nicvoice.org.


NIC VOICE offers the laity within NIC churches an opportunity to become more INFORMED:

  • Upon invitation from a NIC church or group, NIC VOICE will provide a speaker to conduct a  presentation entitled "Discussion of Theological and Doctrinal Issues in the UMC Raised by the Bishop Sprague Complaint & Dismissal", or
  • You may choose to conduct the presentation 'in-house', using the NIC VOICE Watershed Moment Presentation, at a single meeting or in a series of studies on these key doctrinal issues of:
      • Christology (Trinity, Virgin Birth, Deity of Jesus)
      • Resurrection of Jesus Christ
      • Salvation through Jesus Christ Alone
      • The Atonement of Jesus Christ

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