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NIC VOICE General Conference Update (#45)

 

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Follow the Episcopal Elections - The Episcopal elections occur in five geographic conferences across the United States. When delegates in those jurisdictional conferences gather July 14-17, they could elect as many as 20 U.S. bishops. 

 

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ALL ITEMS ARE NEW or UPDATED!!!!  This update consists of press articles followed by a number of GC2004 commentaries, from both the liberal and conservative points of view.

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New Press Articles 
 
THE Great Divide
Kansas.com - KS,USA
... When the Episcopal Church elected an openly gay bishop last summer,
the institute ... When a conservative Methodist minister floated a break-up
proposal at a ...
 
When a conservative Methodist minister floated a break-up proposal at a private breakfast last month, an institute staff member transcribed the speech and posted it on the institute's Web site, where it instantly became a rallying cry for disaffected Methodists.
      

Are the Mainlines Derailing?
Rifts Widen in Major Protestant Denominations

Feature by Ed Vitagliano
June 18, 2004 (AgapePress)

In March, conservative United Methodists were furious when a jury of UMC ministers refused to convict and discipline a lesbian minister for declaring that she was "living in a partnered, covenanted, homosexual relationship." UMC law clearly states: "Since the practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching, self-avowed practicing homosexuals are not to be accepted as candidates, ordained as ministers, or appointed to serve" in the UMC.


 

 

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EXCERPTS from The Reconciling Ministries Network Digest (UM Called Out)
Friday, June 18, 2004

Houston Area Reconciling United Methodists hosted an open forum at St. Paul's UMC this past weekend. Over 75 participants gathered from
ten different churches to hear "Common Ground, Sacred Ground" by Rev. Troy Plummer, Executive Director of the Reconciling Ministries
Network. Rev. Troy Plummer also returned to preach at his home community of 20 years — Bering Memorial UMC. His sermon, drawn
from the account of Simon, the woman with the alabaster jar, and Jesus based on Luke 7:36-8:3 can be heard at
http://www.beringumc.org/wit.htm.

Troy Plummer's Sermon

Editor's Note:  Near the middle of this 30 minute sermon, he reports on GC2004, including that 30 bishops stood during the SoulForce protest at GC2004 , and three bishops marched with them (not named).


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The purpose of the Confessing Movement is to call The United Methodist Church, all laity and all clergy, to confess the person, work, and reign of Jesus Christ.
General Conference 2004 - Follow the United Methodist Church General Conference on our web page.  The General Conference is the only body that speaks for the Church.
 
Editor's Note:  All links are now corrected, and the May/June 2004 issue of "We Confess" is online:
 
Articles Include:
  • THE GENERAL CONFERENCE STAYS THE COURSE, Dr. Ira Gallaway

  • A TALE OF TWO CONFERENCES, Dr. Riley Case

  • Doctrine Matters

  • A PROPHET SPEAKS. Dr. Ira Gallaway

  • UNITY—OR MANIPULATED CONFORMITY, Dr. Ira Gallaway

  • THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL RULES ON THE DAMMANN TRIAL, DECISION NO. 985

  • General Conference Action

  • Other Positive Actions

  • More Positive Actions

  • Disappointing Actions

  • Changes in Jurisdictional representatives who will serve on our Boards and Agencies

 

A TALE OF TWO CONFERENCES
by Riley Case

     The May 8, 1964 issue of Time magazine featured the Methodist Church .  Bishop Gerald Kennedy was shown on the cover.  Bishop Kennedy was referred to as “the unofficial spokesperson for Methodism,” and his Los Angeles area highlighted as representing the bright future for the denomination.

     At that time there was reason to be optimistic about Methodism in southern California .  What is now the California-Pacific Conference had grown in membership from 118,000 in 1950 to 218,000 in 1965.  Many of those members were in significant churches.  In 1965, 69 churches in the California-Pacific Conference reported a membership of more than 1,000.  Within Los Angeles itself were two churches that at one time were the largest of their respective denominations.  Trinity Church , under the fundamentalist “Fighting Bob” Shuler, had been a flagship church in the Methodist Episcopal Church South.  Los Angeles First, under the ministry of Roy L. Smith, in the days before World War II was perhaps the most significant congregation in the Methodist Episcopal Church.

     Southern California was not necessarily known as an evangelical area but it was at least open to evangelicals.  Bishop Kennedy himself was co-chair of the Billy Graham crusade in Los Angeles in 1963 and encouraged the Methodist churches to participate.  Kennedy was also a key influence in helping Charles Keysor start the Good News movement.  In an article in the very first issue of the Good News magazine Kennedy wrote at length on the importance of the evangelical witness in the Methodist Church .  With an affirmation of the evangelical witness and in the midst of the most rapid population growth in the United States there was every reason to believe prospects for a growing and vibrant Methodist Church were good in southern California .

     The North Georgia Conference was at that time a similarly-sized conference in a different jurisdiction and a different part of the country.  The conference reported 211,000 members in 1965 and half the number of churches (35) as California-Pacific with a membership of 1,000 or more.  At the time no one was writing articles about the bright future of Methodism in Georgia .  The area, after all, had not dealt well with issues relating to race, and was not a place where young energetic pastors were flocking to serve.

     Since 1965 these two conferences have gone in two diametrically-opposed directions.  Methodism has become a vital force in northern Georgia ; Methodism has disintegrated almost beyond recognition in southern California .  In the midst of unprecedented population explosion in southern California Methodism has lost 55% of its members in the past 37 years, from 218,000 to 97,000 (statistics from the General Minutes, 1965 and 2002).  The North Georgia Conference in 2002 reported 322,000 members, an increase of 52% from 1965.

     What is particularly telling in a study of the conferences is what has happened to large churches.  Trinity Church Los Angeles, Huntington Park , San Diego Asbury, and Long Beach Atlantic are now closed in the California-Pacific Conference.  First Church Hollywood , once with 2,158 members, now has 263.  Los Angeles First, once the largest church in Methodism, now reports 121 members.  The conference which once reported 69 churches with membership of over 1,000, now reports 7 churches (and the number at the end of 2004 may be down to 3).  Only one church, San Diego First, reports an average worship attendance of over 1,000.  Of 81 churches in the conference that at one time or another reported 1,000 or more in membership there are none which have more members today than in 1995.

     By way of contrast, North Georgia has gone from 39 churches with a membership of over 1,000 in 1965, to 67 churches today.  In 1950 no church in North Georgia had more than 3,000 members.  Today 9 churches report more than 3,000 members and 6 report more than 5,000 members.  17 churches report an average worship attendance of 1,000 or more.  Of 99 churches in the conference that at one time or another reported more than 1,000 members, 45 of those in 2002 reported they had a higher membership than at any time in their history.

     How is it that Methodism thrives in North Georgia and flounders in California-Pacific?  From the perspective of The Confessing Movement the answer is clear and irrefutable: it has to do with faithfulness to the evangelical preaching of the gospel.  This is not to say there are probably some sociological and cultural reasons why there is decline in one conference and growth in the other.  It is to say, however, that the most obvious differences between the two conferences are theological.

     While North Georgia cannot be labeled an “evangelical” conference, it is evident that evangelical pastors and evangelical churches are in abundance in that conference.  California-Pacific, on the other hand, has long since departed from its openness to evangelicals and the evangelical message.  The conference presently wants to see itself as progressive, relevant, “inclusive” (except when it comes to including evangelicals), diverse and prophetic.  But it would seem that the preaching of Jesus Christ crucified and risen is left out of that equation.  Whatever the situation, very few seem to be buying the United Methodist message in southern California .  Like other conferences in the Western Jurisdiction, California-Pacific agitates to remove all disciplinary restrictions on homosexual practice.

     In the California-Pacific Conference one must surely factor in the presence of the School of Theology at Claremont .  Described recently in The United Methodist Reporter as a school which seeks questions rather than answers, Claremont is by far the most liberal seminary in the United Methodist Church .  From process theology to goddess hunts to the assumption that all world religions are authentic ways to the same god, Claremont is on the cutting edge of “progressive Christianity.”  The school speaks much about how its Ph.D. graduates are teaching in a number of academic institutions.  It has very little to say about how many of its graduates are pastoring vibrant, growing churches.

     Not everything goes well in North Georgia and to be sure, there are good things that are happening in United Methodist churches in California-Pacific.  In a comparison between conferences there are other factors to consider.  But surely the message that is proclaimed must be a prime consideration for explaining why some churches and some conferences are more vital and others less vital.  It is time for our church leaders to take note: theology matters.


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Reporter Interactive Letters to the Editor - June 18th Edition (commentary on GC, including Northern Illinois Conference, "Obey Rules or Exit")
 
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UPDATED LINK - now on-line at MFSA web site:

 

  • Progressive Witness Strong and Faithful by Kathryn Johnson
  • Translators Needed Homosexuality, Schism and Unity by Kathryn Johnson
  • Sample Resolution on Church Translation
 
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